A Muxsan range extender will double the range of your old 24 kWh Nissan Leaf.
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Battery SOH
Ah new | Ah left @ fully charged |
bars | % | kWh new | kWh left |
66 | 66 | 12 | 100.0 | 24 | 24.0 |
66 | 60 | 12 | 90.9 | 24 | 21.8 |
66 | 55 | 12 | 83.3 | 24 | 20.0 |
66 | 50 | 11 | 75.8 | 24 | 18.2 |
66 | 46 | 10 | 69.7 | 24 | 16.7 |
66 | 44 | 9 | 66.7 | 24 | 16.0 |
https://pushevs.com/2018/03/20/nissan-leaf-battery-degradation-data-24-vs-30-kwh-batteries/
It’s not surprising that the 30 kWh versions suffer more from charge/discharge cycles, since they are more often charged to 100 %. Remember that the option to limit the charge to 80 % was removed when the 2014 model year debuted (to game EPA range ratings). This means that none Nissan Leaf with the 30 kWh battery has this option.
If you want to improve your electric car battery lifespan, you should know that it’s better to charge to 80 % and discharge till 0 % than to charge to 100 % and discharge to 20 %. Nonetheless, if you can use the battery between a SoC (State of Charge) of 80 and 20 % even better… And if you really want to take care of your battery, try to use it only between 70 and 20 %.
Moreover, having the battery sitting at 100 % SoC is worse with the 30 kWh version than it’s in the 24 kWh variants. Because in the same conditions the 30 kWh battery will likely be hotter. In the 24 kWh battery pack, each module has 4 cells, while in the 30 kWh variant there are 8 cells per module. A more dense battery pack will dissipate heat more slowly.
Why are 24 kWh batteries more affected by time?
It’s also not surprising that the 24 kWh versions are more affected by time and older Leafs show much higher degradation levels, since the “lizard” battery only arrived in 2014 with the 2015 Nissan Leaf.
24 kWh battery (model years 2011-2014): higher degradation levels
24 kWh battery (model years 2015-2016): lower degradation levels (lizard battery)
While the “lizard” battery cells remained with LMO cathodes, they had the electrolyte improved to be more heat tolerant. Only in 2016, Nissan finally started using NCM cathodes in their battery cells with the introduction of the 30 kWh battery version.
https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/201803.0122/v1/download
Accelerated reported battery capacity loss in 30 kWh variants of the Nissan Leaf:
Leafspy
Capacity Ah:
- A new battery is 66 Ah, = 100% (24000 / 66 = 364 V)
- 1 SOH bar lost around 50 Ah,
- 2 SOH bars lost around 46 Ah,
- 3 SOH bars lost around 42 Ah.
Hx (resistance to accepting charge):
Hx correlates almost exactly with the remaining capacity, as a percentage. So a Hx reading of 89 means the car has about 89% of its original capacity left. That reading alone will suffice to evaluate a used Leaf, although Hx plus Ah is better.
Capacity Ah:
A new battery should read around the 67.36 Ah, but don't worry if it's a little less, as for some reason some new cars have been less than this, but after a few thousand miles it increases to this 67.36 area.
GID:GIDS reading is a measurement of exactly how much Watt hour of usable battery energy you have. It has been suggested that 1 GID is equal to 80 Wh. On a full 100% , a new LEAF should have roughly 284 GIDS.
24000 Wh / 80 Wh = 300 GIDs.
Renault Fluence battery specs
From: http://store.evtv.me/proddetail.php?prod=Betterplace
Renault: http://media3.ev-tv.me/renaultbatspec.pdf
Modules: 48
Cells: 96S2P
Voltage: 387
Ampere Hour Capacity: 65 Ah
kiloWatt Capacity: nominally 24 kWh
Individual cell voltage: 2.5 V ~ 4,2 V (min ~ max), 3.75 V (nominal)
Charge voltage: 4.2 v (EVTV recommends 4.1 v)per cell. 403 v pack.
Quick charge: 35 kW max (1.5C 100 A)(39 minutes from zero to full charge)
Fully discharged voltage: 2.5 v per cell, 240 v pack
Weight: 290 kg / 640 pounds
Dimensions: 764 x 1288 x 832 mm (L W H)
Manuf projected life: 5 years or 30 MWh or 150000 km following warranty conditions
Operating temperature range: -25°C ~ 60°C
Width 8.504" (216 mm)
Thickness 0.2795" (7.1mm) Weight
1.7624 lbs (799 g)
Length 11.9291" (303 mm)
Width 8.7795" (223 mm)
Thickness 1.3779" (35 mm)
Weight 8.3775 lbs (3.8 kgs)
Output terminal M6 nut
Voltage sensing terminal M4 nut
Module fixing hole diameter 0.3582" (9.1 mm)
128 Wh/kg (compare to CA60FI @ 96 Wh/kg)
The battery pack contains following components:
-Li-ion battery cell (or module or block)
-Electrical connection inter cells
-Battery management system (BMS)
-Junction Box
-Service Disconnect Switch (SD/SW)
-Fuse
-Integrated Quick Drop connector (HV and 14V)
-Pack structural parts, frames
-Quick Drop locking system
-Pack outer casing
-Interface for external cooling air inlet and outlet 
Renault: http://media3.ev-tv.me/renaultbatspec.pdf
Modules: 48
Cells: 96S2P
Voltage: 387
Ampere Hour Capacity: 65 Ah
kiloWatt Capacity: nominally 24 kWh
Individual cell voltage: 2.5 V ~ 4,2 V (min ~ max), 3.75 V (nominal)
Charge voltage: 4.2 v (EVTV recommends 4.1 v)per cell. 403 v pack.
Quick charge: 35 kW max (1.5C 100 A)(39 minutes from zero to full charge)
Fully discharged voltage: 2.5 v per cell, 240 v pack
Weight: 290 kg / 640 pounds
Dimensions: 764 x 1288 x 832 mm (L W H)
Manuf projected life: 5 years or 30 MWh or 150000 km following warranty conditions
Operating temperature range: -25°C ~ 60°C
Individual laminate cell dimensions:
Length 11.417" (290 mm)Width 8.504" (216 mm)
Thickness 0.2795" (7.1mm) Weight
1.7624 lbs (799 g)
MODULE DIMENSIONS
4 cells in module Construction 2 in-series pairs in parallelLength 11.9291" (303 mm)
Width 8.7795" (223 mm)
Thickness 1.3779" (35 mm)
Weight 8.3775 lbs (3.8 kgs)
Output terminal M6 nut
Voltage sensing terminal M4 nut
Module fixing hole diameter 0.3582" (9.1 mm)
128 Wh/kg (compare to CA60FI @ 96 Wh/kg)
The battery pack contains following components:
-Li-ion battery cell (or module or block)
-Electrical connection inter cells
-Battery management system (BMS)
-Junction Box
-Service Disconnect Switch (SD/SW)
-Fuse
-Integrated Quick Drop connector (HV and 14V)
-Pack structural parts, frames
-Quick Drop locking system
-Pack outer casing
-Interface for external cooling air inlet and outlet 
Renault Zoe Battery specs
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Zoe
First generation battery:
- Total weight is 290 kg
- Total capacity is 25,92 kWh (192 x 36 Ah x 3,75 V = 25,92 kWh)
- Available capacity is 23.3 kWh
- 192 cells, each with 36 Ah nominal capacity and 3,75 V nominal voltage.
- Total cell weight is 165.12 kg (192 x 0.86 kg = 165.12 kg)
Second generation battery:
- Total weight is 305 kg
- Total capacity is 45.61 kWh (estimation by knowing the usable capacity)
- Available capacity is 41 kWh
- 192 cells, each with 63.35 Ah nominal capacity (estimation) and 3.75 V nominal voltage
- Total cell weight is 180.12 kg (estimation by knowing the total battery weight)
DIY Lithium Batteries: How to Build Your Own Battery Packs (book)
DIY Lithium Batteries: How to Build Your Own Battery Packs DIY Lithium Batteries op bol.com
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0989906701
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0989906701
Jehu's Lithium Battery Cell Sources on KIT
KIT: https://kit.com/jehu/lithium-battery-cell-sources
Examples:
Examples:
- Jehu's groupbuy: https://jehusgroupbuy.com/collections/frontpage/products/brand-new-sony-vtc6-1-case-200-cells-3-50-per-cell
- Battery hookup: https://batteryhookup.com/
- ERC: https://erc-green.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fbox-of-100-lg-18650-m36t-cells-3450-mah
- De groot (NL): https://www.ebay.nl/str/grooter?clk_rvr_id=1586915510154
Company website: https://www.grooter.nl/
MIA battery specifications EVIDA
Specifications of the EVIDA 8 kWh battery pack:
Ah | 105 (0.2C5A) |
MAX CONTINUOUS DISCHARGE AMPERAGE | 2 C5A – 210Ah |
MAX PEAK DISCHARGE AMPERAGE | 3 C5A – 315Ah |
STANDARD CHARGE | 0.2C-21A |
FAST CHARGE | 1C-105A |
DISCHARGE CUT-OFF VOLTAGE (2.5V per parallel set) | 60V |
BASE VOLTAGE (3.167V) | 76V – 7.98kW |
CHARGE CUT-OFF VOLTAGE (3.65V) | 91.25V – 9.581kW |
SERIES / PARALLEL / CELL COUNT | 25 / 21 / 525 |
DIMENSIONS | 25*17*10 in (630*432*256 mm) |
WEIGHT | 209 lbs (95 kgs) |
CYCLE LIFE (80% DOD) (Based on 1C Discharge and Charge) | 2000 |
SELF DISCHARGE RATE (30 DAYS) | 3% |
OPERATING TEMP | -4 to 113F (-20 to 45C) |
CHARGING TEMP | 32 to 113F (0 to 45C) |
STORAGE TEMP | -4 to 150F (-20 to 75C) |
IMPEDANCE (MAX, AT 1000HZ) | ≤ 25 m Ω |
ENERGY TYPE | 60V-76V-87V 105Ah 8kW-9kW 2C-3C EV-Hybrid Lithium LiFePO4 Custom Built Cylindrical Battery Pack |
Technical details
76V nominal voltage105Ah 8 kWh
2C-3C EV-Hybrid Battery Pack
UL, CE, SGS-RoHS, RBRC, ISO, and TS Certified
Custom Lithium LiFePO4 Cylindrical Battery Pack
Comes with a Protective Advanced BMS installed
Advanced BMS
Cooling fan
Max Continuous discharge amperage is 2C
Max Peak discharge amperage is 3C for 1~10 seconds
Certified Cylindrical Battery Pack combines cylindrical cells for higher voltage and capacity applications than those of a single cell.
Source: https://eauto.si/metron-shop/?product=8-kwh-76v-storage-ev-battery
MIA Battery specifications OPTIMUM NANO
Specifications MIA, OPTIMUM NANO
LiFePO4 Battery Parameter
Battery Type
|
Nominal Voltage
|
Nominal Capacity
|
Dimension
(LxWxH,mm) |
Weight
|
BMS
|
76.8V105Ah
LiFePO4 Battery |
76.8V
(24 in series) |
105Ah
(21 in parallel) |
636*462*256
|
105Kg
|
24V power supply + master + collection module
|
OptimumNano Battery Management System (BMS)
Item No. | Item | Setting | Remark |
(Level One/Level Two) | |||
1. | Over charge protection | 3.65V/3.85V | Alarming/cut off |
(each cell) | (Charging) | ||
2. | Max. total voltage | 87.6V | Cut off |
(Charging) | |||
3. | Max. charge current | 100A | Alarming/cut off |
4. | Under discharge protection | 2.8V/2.5V | Cut off |
(each cell) | |||
5. | Min. total voltage | 60V | |
6. | Max. discharge current | 150A | |
7. | Pulse discharge current | 250A | Last for 30 seconds |
8. | Low SOC alarming | 30% | Battery should be recharged |
9. | Over temperature protection | 65℃ | Cut off |
10. | Temperature difference | 5℃ | Alarming |
Source: http://m.optimumnanolithiumbattery.com/ev-lifepo4-batteries/logistics-car-battery/phev-ev-li-ion-battery.html
MIA Electric (handy links)
Battery info / news:
- Evida Battery: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/03/prweb5107554.htm
- Evida Battery: https://eauto.si/metron-shop/?product=8-kwh-76v-storage-ev-battery
- Optimum Nano battery: http://m.optimumnanolithiumbattery.com/ev-lifepo4-batteries/logistics-car-battery/phev-ev-li-ion-battery.html
- Lion Smart battery: https://www.electrive.com/2018/12/06/fox-plans-new-series-of-e-car-mia-with-lion-battery/
Forum:
- Forum (DE): https://www.goingelectric.de/forum/mia-electric/
- Collectif MIA (FR) : http://www.vehiculeselectriques.fr/topic11204.html
Service and parts:
- Jacobi Mainz (DE): http://www.emobile-mainz.de
- 4elkaar (NL): http://4elkaar.eu/mia-electric/
Test / review:
- Youtube results: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mia+electric
- TopGear (UK) (2012) https://topgear.nl/autotests/mia-electric-12-kwh-test-drives/
- ANWB (NL): https://www.anwb.nl/auto/themas/elektrisch-rijden/.../mia-electric
- Autocar (UK): https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mia/electric
- EGEAR (BE) https://www.egear.be/mia-electric-review/
- Facebook (NL) (discontinued): https://nl-nl.facebook.com/MiaElectricNederland
- MIA official FR) (discontinued): https://nl-nl.facebook.com/mia.electric
Hybride-shop.nl nieuwe / gebruikte / refurbished HEV batterijen (NL)
https://www.hybride-shop.nl/
Nieuwe / gebruikte / refurbished hybride voertuig batterijen.
Nieuwe / gebruikte / refurbished hybride voertuig batterijen.
Jehu Garcia
https://www.youtube.com/user/jehugarcia
Lots of videos on EV conversion, parts and How to.
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